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Learning languages thread Anonymous 05/17/2020 (Sun) 21:47:33 No. 895
What you studying? How is it going? What languages do you speak?
I have been thinking of learning a Romance language or perhaps Japanese, but I can't make up my mind. I speak English and a Slav language thatwas influenced by Latin, so Romance languages would be easier. Even then, I can't decide between them and would welcome advice.
>Italian
Pros: I would be able to access authentic recipes, access Italian media - especially Italian comics that do not get translated to English, and it is a very good jumping off point to learning Spanish later on.
Cons: Relatively small population of Italian speakers, less resources, and there are less countries where Italian will let you get by compared to French or Spanish

>French
Pros: Access to French media, especially comics many of which take a long time to be translated, pantydropper.
Cons: spelling is almost as much of a mess as the English one

>Spanish
Pros: Lots of learning resources, could be helpful in day to day life in the U.S., spoken in many countries, good springboard to learning Italian later on, access to Spanish media.
Cons: a lot of Spanish media is available in English, native Spanish speakers seem to have better command of English than French or Italians.

>Japanese
Pros: Access to Japanese media, access to authentic recipes, access to Japanese clothing and art supply stores, good amount of learning resources.
Cons: Alien writing system, "spelling" is kind of a mess, more difficult than romance languages


In addition, I was hoping to visit all of the countries that these languages originate from. Japanese and French are not as good with English as Italians and Spaniards. At the same time, I have heard that Japanese and Italians are more patient and helpful towards foreigners trying to speak local languages than the French or Spanish.
I speak Swedish and English.
I guess the main languages I'm learning are Latin, New Testament Greek, Biblical Hebrew, and French. Fortunately, learning dead languages is pretty painless because there are no real requirements for speaking/writing, but on the other hand my linguistic and grammatical knowledge outstrips my reading ability. French is not going so well, but I'm also not very motivated.

>>907
I don't have a lot of good advice, but my personal opinion is that you should pick a language based on interest rather than difficulty.
>>914
I'm interested in finding resources to learn French. Know any good books?
>>918
I'm currently using French for Reading by Karl C. Sandberg and Eddison C. Tatham. I like the structure (very brief grammatical explanations followed by a lot of practice sentences) and wish there were books in other languages I'm learning that are as good as this.
been trying to learn russian for quite a while but duolingo sucks
been thinking about going through roadside picnick or metro and translating it line by line.
any suggestions?
Tried to learn German back in 2013-14, but got bored of it. Didn't help that I was only using Duolingo to study, and it got tiring trying to keep caught up.

A few years later I tried learning Japanese. Kana was the only easy part. Grammar wasn't too hard, though, I used Tae Kim and I could follow along. But kanji and vocabulary were a nightmare. It got to the point where I was spending an hour and a half of my free time every day studying flashcards.
Then I realized, why am I even studying Japanese? I might into Japanese media a little (mostly games), but all the stuff I've seen/read/played has been translated anyhow.

Lately I've been learning Latin off and on. Hell of a lot easier than I thought. Only problem is, there's no use for it outside of academic stuff.
currently learning spanish, as most if not all of the people around me speak it. i plan on learning russian to access its literature in its original form; japanese because i'm a weeb and it would be nice to not need subtitles if i visit japan; hebrew because it's related to arabic (which i already speak); and german because it's related to english.
i remember reading something about how to choose languages to learn depending on need and relation to mother tongue.
i've been halfheartedly studying russian for a few years. motivation dropped off hard after i left uni and didnt have a structured class anymore. i have couple guys online who are up to groupstudy if i can ever arrange it.
finnish would be really cool, plus i could then access ylilauta, but there are damn near no resources out there.
lately i've had an interest in sign language, i think it would be fun. i don't know any deaf or mute people so i would have to practice on video online, but i'm sure there's groups for that.
Anyone here have any resources on learning Russian? I'm definitely interested in self-studying.
English is not my native language and tbh, imageboards have been immensely helpful with that.
Apart from that I speak German (native) and some pretty good French as well fairly good Turkish. Tried to learn Russian many times but failed at every attempt. Also took Chinese classes to two years but I totally failed even at basic conversation so I quit.
Currently I'm trying to improve my French.
>>907
Italy, Japan, and France are really the countries outside of the English speaking world that produce or have produced media in any quantity worth consuming, as far as I'm aware.
Those are on my list, but I have to learn Spanish first, for college.
I'd also like to learn Chinese, because I love the way it sounds, and I'd love to visit Hong Kong or Taiwan (which ever one is still around by the time I can).
I'm taking on Japanese lately. I started with it ~20 years ago because I wanted a challenge, but it turns out to be a fairly boring challenge once you get past the grammar and nuances of Japanese culture. A few thousand kanji, which can be composed into several thousand words. It's quite a mountain when there aren't any cognates to ease the load.

There's really nothing for it but to attack aggressively, and so my advice (which I've used to good effect with romance languages) is twofold:

1. Collect vocabulary through practical experience. Whether that's watching GCCX, reading newspapers, or vidya doesn't matter. I found my retention was better when I could group words chronologically and contextually.

2. Memorize the collected vocabulary via flashcards.

Ideally you'd have a system where you can do instant lookups while reading, like with rikaichan or whatever, and each term you look up is automatically inserted into the practice deck. Spend 45 minutes reading and 45 minutes grinding each day, and progress will be had.
>>1081
I'd argue flashcards are a waste of time (spent the first few months of my studies using them). After I dropped anki, had a lot more time and energy to spend reading visual novels.
For anyone that plans on using VNs as practise, I recommend short ones, since after a while you don't tend to see any new vocab.
Another good resource is simply studying a Japanese page for anything you're interested in. Two birds with one stone.
I’d like something to learn Mandarin, maybe for now in pinyin.
>>39660234

but I'm 26

life is over for me already
>What you studying?
Russian
>How is it going?
I could probably get by living in Russia, barely
>What languages do you speak?
English
>>1360
What are you doing to study russsian?
Ive been trying to do it for a while now, but given my new plans i switched it for french instead. MUCH easier, just another new-latin language
>>1362
>What are you doing to study Russian?
Two to four lessons on Duolingo per day, going in Russian /int/ threads and trying to translate to English, practice writing and spelling by hand
>>1242
Don't think like that, I'm not much younger than you and I've started to study Japanese and German. You can still do so much more.
>>1360
good choice, i speak russian too
speak polish, currently learning german. it's an interesting link between polish and english, and hence has the added effect of understanding those languages better. the words and grammar are similar to english, but the cases and heavy use of prefixes similar to polish.
>>895 >What you studying? Arabic >How is it going? Okay, I wish my life moved slower so that I had time and energy to work on it more. >What languages do you speak? English & french poorly
why are there this many russian leaners here. i quit learning french for like 5 days on duolingo and when i came back i was even better. >>1579 how hard is it to learn arabic for an english speaker? i think it would be a pretty useful language to learn.
>>1579 marhaba akhi. arabic isn't one of the most difficult languages in the world for nothing, there's a ton of grammatical rules and morphological stems and patterns to memorize/understand. not to mention the the phonology of it. but once you achieve adequate fluency, it opens up your mind to different avenues of thought and decent literature. if you ever need a speaker of arabic to practice with, hop onto the discord server. >>1582 it's a complete 180 from english. an example would be the sentence structure. english has a subject-verb-object structure (e.g: the boy kicked the ball), arabic has a verb-subject-object (e.g: daraba al-waladu al-kura). as mentioned above, there's a ton of syntactical, morphological, and phonological rules to be mindful of. it is a useful language to learn and is highly in demand for governmental jobs. not to mention middle eastern women are hot. also you get to read the quran in its original language, without any meaning being lost in translation.
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Esperanto. Trying to learn by creating beginner level reading material. Very ideological language. I wish I learned back in 2012. I feel sad I have no one putting pressure on me. I created the Esperanto Wikipedia article on vore fandom. Esperanto has a diasporic spread, much like internet culture. I feel that endangered internet culture could inhabit Esperanto, potentially. Consider that my little social experiment.
>>1582 I have a lot in common with Russians' interest in music so I thought I might as well.

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